Curse

Loviatar · Jun 03, 2007, 04:17 PM // 16:17

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Originally Posted by D8tura

hey guys I was brain storming and i think I have a good idea.....

PLEASE READE THIS ANET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let me start by telling you a good friend was a hard core farmer and was banned for being a bot.

long story short he plays WOW and will not think of GW ever again...

what do you guys think????

i think you are leaving most of the story (yes story) out including if your friend (always a friend) contacted support to get it unbanned if he was actually innocent.

isnt it interesting that the actual people banned unjustly and leave never speak up for themselves but it is always a *friend*

Roshi_ikkyu · Jun 03, 2007, 04:29 PM // 16:29

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Originally Posted by Darcy

3. Gaile has also mentioned that generally gold-sellers do not purchase accounts. They are the main source of account theft.

Yes and thats the truth!... Please its just there way of ensuring people don't attempt to cheat the system.

Think about the comments of Anet banning 1000 bot accounts next time you read about them selling 2000 new copies of the game.

The OP's idea isn't as good as he thinks it is, Gold farmers employ people to watch there systems, easy to type in a code.

And if that fails I hope most people are aware that it is still cheaper, in some locations, to have a person work 12hrs playing the game to amass gold to sell for a profit.

Bots just speed the process up and assist the flow of the game.

Jack A Roe · Jun 03, 2007, 04:56 PM // 16:56

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Originally Posted by Njaiguni Blaze

iirc, you do get warnings before banning. Both in temporary bans as in your ing chat screen.

Absolutely not true, at least not in my case. My (mistaken) ban was on my 2nd account, which I had not even logged on to for a few days. While I solo farm fairly regularly, it's on my main account-not the one that was banned. The account which was accused of "bot-like activities" had most recently been capping elites on double XP weekend for a survivor title, and in fact I don't even have a character capable of solo farming on this account. Logged on to a perma-ban, knew it was a mistake, and within a day had my account back. This is why I wonder why the OP's friend did not go through the proper channels to proclaim his or her innocence, as I've read posts of several mistaken bans which were overturned as admitted mistakes. I'm all for agressive bot banning, and if that means the occasional hiccup in the system that bans legit players, then so be it-as long as the appeal system works as well for others as it did for me.

Njaiguni Blaze · Jun 03, 2007, 06:06 PM // 18:06

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Originally Posted by FoxBat

You're still wrong...

Sorry, I've checked on it and they do apply to HM. Anyways, what I was really saying is that bots have no effect on you, not on drop rate, not on economy. They don't use the traders and anti-farming and loot scaling is player specific.

MoreaChanduen · Jun 03, 2007, 06:51 PM // 18:51

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Originally Posted by majoho

Anyone notice that 99% of the time, it's 'friends' of banned players that complain - why is that?

For real I think they should not bother with bots at all, and ban gold byers instead then the bots will disappear.

How do you propose that would work? If the botters can operate without being banned, they can trade their gold to whomever they wish. And if anet just banned anyone who was given 100k gold for nothing in a trade, they'd just start trading crappy items back to the seller to throw them off the trail. It's not justly possible to ban gold buyers (not that the current system is really that much more just).

lyra_song · Jun 03, 2007, 07:09 PM // 19:09

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

You are talking about catpcha.

Besides reall people supervising bots, there is trick to get around any catpcha:

Make website with whatever desirable (porn/torrents/warez ...) then use catpcha - but not yours generated, isntead display catpcha you want to solve, and accept any input. if there are no queued catpchas to be solved, do not require it.

That way any visitor will solve catpcha for you (within minutes...), and you can feed result to wherver original catpcha came from.

Neat trick, eh?

Thats a nice trick indeed

But its reliant on people solving the catpcha to begin with.

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I have this idea i want you guys to give me some input on.

Idea: Two modes of loot drops, player selectable.

Concept: Basically....a player has 2 choices when they go out to kill monsters.

Normal Loot Drop Rate & Enhanced Loot Drop Rate

Normal Loot Drop Rate: Exactly what we have now. Loot scaling, low chance for rares. Generally hard to get stuff you want.

Enchanced Loot Drop Rate: Increased drop rate of all items, with a BIG BIG CATCH. These items cannot be merched, nor can they traded to other players. But these items can be used by your characters. Rare weapon skins do no increase in drops, but weapon mods on crappy skins are higher chance of being perfect.

So what does this mean?

If you need insignias/runes/materials/weapons for you character and not for reselling, Enhanced Loot Drop Rate would be VERY beneficial.

If you need money and rare items to sell, Normal Loot Drop rate would be what you need to choose.

Just an idea....im aware of the enormous affect on the economy this would do....

Patrick Smit · Jun 03, 2007, 07:51 PM // 19:51

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Originally Posted by MoreaChanduen

How do you propose that would work? If the botters can operate without being banned, they can trade their gold to whomever they wish. And if anet just banned anyone who was given 100k gold for nothing in a trade, they'd just start trading crappy items back to the seller to throw them off the trail. It's not justly possible to ban gold buyers (not that the current system is really that much more just).

With an auction sytem that would be possible, because nobody would trade in another way, or it should be "dicouraged". Big mony changing hands in another way would therfore automatically be suspect unless guys are in same guild for longer time for example.

Inde · Jun 04, 2007, 01:10 AM // 01:10

We've had enough of these threads, please use one of the existing ones rather then starting another. Closed.